Video Review #3 ProRes Log vs ProRes HLG from iPhone 16 Pro • 20241115


Third day with the new iPhone 16 Pro Max. Comparing Apple Prores HQ video recording using both the Apple Log (Rec. 2020) and the HDR (Rec. 2020 HLG) color space format.
Internal 4K 25p video recording with the main – fusion – camera set at both 1x and 2x. I am not a colorist ;) and have no experience with log video.
I do have some experience with HDR-HLG recording on both the iPhone and Sony camera’s, and editing HLG in FCP, mostly in standard gamut SDR projects.
Started last night editing Apple log clips , and online found an interesting instruction video by Stalman.
I tested the Stalman procedure (YouTube URL https://youtu.be/OZFtRYnUuoQ ) of changing file settings (Color space override with Rec.709 ; disable Apple’s Apple Log LUT) and color grading before applying the Stalman – Apple Log to Rec709 LUT on my Apple Log clips and saved my color graded video ‘Stalman Apple Log Transform (SALT)’ encoded with Apple Prores HQ.
Next a SDR (Rec. 709) project was used in a new Rec.709 FCP library, for importing native (unaltered) clips — both Apple Log and HDR-HLG iPhone footage — with the automatic FCP color conform setting, and with automatic Apple LUT applied on the Apple Log clips. Using the FCP installed Color adjustments effect I did some minor color editing of these clips. The SALT graded clips were added with no further modifications.

Some video production details

iPhone 16 Pro Max – main camera used at 1x or 2x.
Video storage internally on the iPhone while recording 4K 25p Apple ProRes HQ files with either ProRes Apple Log or ProRes HDR encoding.
Video edited with Final Cut Pro (FCP) 10.8.1 in a ProRes HQ – 4K 25p SDR project (Rec. 709). The Stalman transform and color grade procedure was tested watching instructions at YouTube.

Output for upload ProRes HQ 4K for YouTube, ProRes HQ HD for Vimeo, and HD 1080p, H264, 24,000 kbps for Substack and Instagram.

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What do you think , looks best in this comparison of ProRes Log and ProRes HLG video clips ?

Notes

1. How to color grade LOG in Final Cut Pro (Aug 13, 2024) by Tyler Stalman URL https://youtu.be/OZFtRYnUuoQ
Note : On the Stallman LUTs for LOG in the description. I first bought the new ‘Film LUTs for iPhone (Apple Log).
This wasn’t what was really needed here. A different file was needed : the Apple Log to Rec709 Transform.

Color space override — I wonder : Why apply Color Space Override Rec.709 on the Rec.2020 Apple Log footage, in combination with the Stalman Apple Log to SDR LUT with settings input Rec.709 and output Rec.709 — see Stalman Timeline t5.54 URL https://youtu.be/OZFtRYnUuoQ .
Why not skip the ‘override’ and use input Rec.2020 with that LUT ? I guess it has to do with FCP auto color conform not disabled ? or else the LUT was build for other files ?
See also What is Apple Log and How to Color Grade It (Sep 28, 2023) by Evan Schneider URL https://youtu.be/QMErbsEAgCI

Further experience with file import failure in FCP — iPhone file import in FCP failed again for 3 of the 15 files selected. Each time the last 3 days that I started an import from the new iPhone in FCP (version 10.8.1) I had this issue (see also posts previous days). Today, after using 3 different cables and both of the 2 free USB-C ports in different combinations on my 2021 Macbook Pro M1Max over the past days, I can conclude the issue is either the new iPhone or FCP. I haven’t had any issue with the Macbook before. I believe it is the software – probably FCP causing the failures. I noticed that one of the files imported 2 days ago, with a lenght of 4 minutes , has indeed 4 minutes audio , but only around 1 minute video, and a still image for the rest of the video. File transfer did work for all files eventually when started all-over, restarting FCP and reinserting a cable… Before , over the past years, I noticed issues working with FCP when a new upgrade was about to arrive … yesterday v11 was reported.

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Blue Planet • Falaise #173 • 20241020


Seascape – 30 minutes at the hazy Alabaster Coast, Normandy, September 2024 .

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4′33″ • Falaise #169 • 20241006


Four minutes, thirty-three seconds at high tide on the Normandy chalk cliffs in Ault, France, on a hazy summer day in 2024.

SDR video fragment of 30 min HD HDR video .

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Substack HDR Test | 20240702

https://1memo.substack.com/p/20240701

Testing HDR video upload at Substack.
Uploaded yesterday’s HDR video (Traditional Fishing Corfu | 20240701) at 1memo.substack.com .
The HDR file is converted to SDR at Substack OK … less saturated, though, compared to the outcome after uploading a SDR edition (an edition created by Vimeo from my HDR upload at my Vimeo channel).
For comparison the Vimeo video is embedded too at Substack… (HDR only shows at HDR-compatible screens, on conventional screens Vimeo is displaying the SDR edition).

Citation info : Substack HDR Test | 20240702 | 1-memo•com

Bridge 112 Amsterdam Streets | 20230704


Bridge 112 Amsterdam Streets | 20230704 | Michel van der Burg | 1-memo•com | Street view on the banks of the Prinsengracht canal with in the west bank the ‘Tennis Court’ bridge (Caetsbaanbrug, bridge 112) over the Lauriergracht canal – in the 16th century called ‘Caetsbaensloot’ for the ditch along the ‘Caetsbaenspad’ , the footpath , named after a tennis court (caetsbaen) there outside the city walls, now the Jordaan district of Amsterdam. The Westerkerk church bells are ringing 4:30 PM, January 7, 2020). 2023 reedit of the Sony A7SII SDR footage to HDR-HLG #SDRtoHDR; sound Sony stereo mic ECM-XYST1M, using extra deadcat on top of Sony’s original one. SDR version published 20200109 (shorter) | TakeNode 46f6a028-6e71-4488-9ba9-d3760afb99c8

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Bridge 65 Amsterdam Streets | 20230703


Bridge 65 Amsterdam Streets | 20230703 | Michel van der Burg | 1-memo•com | Street view on the ‘Bears sluice’ (Berensluis – bridge 65) over the Prinsengracht canal – port to the Jordaan district – in the center of Amsterdam at twilight during rush hour, 5 PM January 7, 2020. 2023 reedit of the Sony A7SII SDR footage to HDR-HLG #SDRtoHDR; sound Sony stereo mic ECM-XYST1M, using extra deadcat on top of Sony’s original one. SDR version published 20200108 (shorter film). Camera exposure less negative than for clip used dd 20230702 | TakeNode 11590f3a-40ce-4c08-96bb-437873205742

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Bridge 65 Amsterdam Streets | 20230702


Bridge 65 Amsterdam Streets | 20230702 | Michel van der Burg | 1-memo•com | Street view on the ‘Bears sluice’ (Berensluis – bridge 65) over the Prinsengracht canal – port to the Jordaan district – in the center of Amsterdam at twilight during rush hour, 5 PM January 7, 2020. 2023 reedit of the Sony A7SII SDR footage to HDR-HLG #SDRtoHDR; sound Sony stereo mic ECM-XYST1M, using extra deadcat on top of Sony’s original one. SDR version published 20200108 of different clip (with less negative exp correction). | TakeNode 23a0f3c9-1724-4a33-844a-086e57054367

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